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Father returning to UK from US after 50 years!

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mick2me
March 14th, 2006, 02:03 AM
My father was born in 1912 (yes he is 94)
He served in the UK armed forces in india in the 1930s, and served in the british army during the war.

In 1957 he emmigrated to Canada and then on to the USA.
He became naturalized in the US 1967.

I am a citizen of the UK. We are considering bringing him back to the UK.
Today I collected a passport application form fron the British Embassy here in The USA.They advised me to fill a lost or stolen passport form at the same time. I assume at the time he travelled to the US in 1957, he would have had a British passport then.

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Don Aitken
March 14th, 2006, 01:45 PM
If he was born in the UK in 1912, he is a British citizen by birth and
retains that status for life; there is no process by which it can be
taken away from him. He is therefore entitled to return to the UK at
any time. If he was born somewhere else (such as India) which was then
under the sovereignty of the British crown, things get *much* more
complicated.

I don't really see why they want the "lost passport" declaration. Any
passport which was valid in 1957 would now be long expired, and any
normal person would expect it to have been discarded. This may not
apply to the officials you have to deal with, though, and it would
doubtless be wise to do what they want.

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bruceba
March 14th, 2006, 03:04 PM
His new passport should be free because of his age.
Maybe just download the application and enclose a current other passport, it will be returned quickly.
good luck
Missing passport paperwork will delay
Order a new birth cert on line (it is easy and can be quick) GRO UK (google)

P Pron
March 14th, 2006, 05:45 PM
mick2me wrote:
My father was born in 1912 (yes he is 94)
He served in the UK armed forces in india in the 1930s, and served in
the british army during the war.

In 1957 he emmigrated to Canada and then on to the USA.
He became naturalized in the US 1967.

I am a citizen of the UK. We are considering bringing him back to the
UK.
Today I collected a passport application form fron the British
Embassy here in The USA.They advised me to fill a lost or stolen
passport form at the same time. I assume at the time he travelled to
the US in 1957, he would have had a British passport then.

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks



If your father is in a hurry get home, and is prepared to pay for his new
passport, you can download the passport application form (C1) from
http://www.britainusa.com/sections/articles_show_nt1.asp?d=1&i=41001&L1=10080&L2=41001&a=27933

If he wants to take advantage of the offer for free passports for people
born on/before 2 September 1929, your father will need to complete a
UK-style form, which cannot be downloaded. I assume you can get this form
posted to you by phoning the British Embassy in Washington. Make sure you
specify that it is the *UKPS* form that you require, because of your
father's age.

(The reason for the difference is that the free passports for the elderly
are issued in UK, where, because they are scanned into the system, the
colour of the ink is important. They also take longer, because they're sent
to the UK and back. "Standard" applications submitted to Embassies, etc, use
a different form, which *can* be downloaded and printed by the customer).

paul

JAJ
March 14th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Don Aitken wrote:


Not applicable in this situation, but it also gets more complex if a UK-born
person became a U.S. citizen before 1949, as this caused loss of British
nationality at the time.

mick2me
March 16th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Thanks for the usefull replies.

I went straight on to the Record Office site and ordered his Birth Certificate.

So he can re enter the UK and stay with no problem once he again holds a British passport?

P Pron
March 16th, 2006, 07:15 AM
mick2me wrote:
Thanks for the usefull replies.

I went straight on to the Record Office site and ordered his Birth
Certificate.

So he can re enter the UK and stay with no problem once he again
holds a British passport?

A British *citizen* passport, yes. British citizens have the right of abode
in UK.

paul

mick2me
March 16th, 2006, 10:04 AM
Paul

I take it from your reply that The holder of a British Passport is a 'Citizen'
and not that there is a 'Citizen' Passport which would not apply to someone who was Naturalised in the USA?

Mick T

P Pron
March 16th, 2006, 11:15 AM
mick2me wrote:
P Pron Wrote:
mick2me wrote:

A British *citizen* passport, yes. British citizens have the right
of abode
in UK.

paul

Paul

I take it from your reply that The holder of a British Passport is a
'Citizen'
and not that there is a 'Citizen' Passport which would not apply to
someone who was Naturalised in the USA?

Mick T

Perhaps I should have spelled it out more clearly....

There are around half a dozen different British national statuses, deriving
from connections with former colonies, protectorates, etc. Only British
*citizens* normally have the right of abode in UK, and I emphasised that
point because you won't be the only person reading this thread and I didn't
want to get into any arguments about British passport-holders who *haven't*
got the right of abode....

From the information you have provided, your father appears to be a British
citizen, and his naturalisation as a US citizen shouldn't have made a
difference to that. So I don't think you or he have anything to worry about
on that score.

paul

mick2me
March 16th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Thank you Paul.

That seems to be the bottom Line of it.

We will proceed with the passport application, and I will update
the forums with progress, in case there may be any members with similar cases.

Mick T

mick2me
March 20th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Couple more quiries on this

The passport photographs taken here are in the US are slightly oversize.
Should I trim them down, keeping the image size within criteria.
Or will passport office do it?

Also I note the counter signitory must be UK resident/Passport Holder.
Can my partner not married to me, comfirm picture and countersign.
She not a police officer/official.

Thanks

Mick T

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